Valentino Rossi ambassador Yamaha but Team Ducati. Conflict of interest or signal?

C’è conflitto di interesse in Valentino Rossi per il fatto che è ambassador Yamaha e fa correre il suo team con Ducati? Ci sono dei precedenti? E’ una cosa così strana per lui o in generale? Queste scelte sono un segnale? Che segnale? Un segnale per il suo team.


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VR46 confirms but Aramco denies. Who is lying? Nieto announces. Uccio fired?

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Misano was not the expected Italian happy ending for the VR46 package, either directly or indirectly.
Valentino Rossi started last and finished in the top ten. All in all, an acceptable result given the season, but certainly not one of those expected until recently when it came to a decent home farewell to his longtime career.
Bad also Bagnaia, considered as the flag of the Academy, on the ground to resist a Marquez who won the race in the home of others on a circuit that by conformation should have said no.
It did not go well even for the rest of the Valentno boys who did not shine in either Moto2 or Moto3, where a former VR46, Dennis Foggia, won his race.
The results of Morbidelli, 14th and Marini 9th and humiliated by his teammate Bastianini, which feeds controversy over the bikes that will be assigned to the two in 2022 (Marini the factory and Bastianini an old bike), close the weekend, but it is not over yet.

The thing that should worry, even if hardly anyone talks about it, is the failure to announce the sponsor of Valentino's MotoGP team, on which a dangerous silence has fallen for months.

It is not clear why it was a non-organizational or financial figure who broke it, but a technician, a figure who until now had never expressed himself on issues of this type, or perhaps this is a signal.

There are some certainties in the team: The riders will be Marini and Bezzecchi, while the historical employees of VR (Munoz, Flamigni, Gavira) are confirmed in their technical roles.
Who seems to be out of authority is Uccio Salucci who, apparently, will remain in the role most suited to him of Valentino’s Bottle & Towel Manager even in car racing. An accompanying role that, plausibly, prevents him from pursuing commercial agreements.
The most malicious will have thought that all this is due to the mess put up in recent months but Nieto’s tranquility seems to deny the rumors about the team that Valentino does not care about (he admitted this by declaring that the sponsorship problems do not concern him).

According to Pablo Nieto, in fact, the choice not to give news would be linked to the desire to better manage the last Italian VR race and otherwise everything would be fine with Aramco, despite the slowness of the evolution of the matter.

“As you know, we have made this deal with Aramco in the past. Things are going very, very slowly, but they are on the right track.”

And still:

"This is the most important thing and, at the moment, the thing I can tell you is that we are working on it. There are some delays, but we are on the right track and we are still working on it."

So after months the oil sponsor reappears, despite the official and repeated denials of its press office (Brunswick has repeatedly written to this website as well) and of its CEO who has spoken in first person publicly.

It is bad to use the term "liar" but someone is not telling the truth, because if things were to be as the Spaniard says, it would mean that Aramco has been denying something for which he was negotiating for months. Aramco has not released "no comment" but has categorically denied any past and present negotiations with VR46.
If, on the other hand, things were as described by Aramco, it would be someone from VR46 who made the mental films.

The surprising thing, however, is not so much pulling in a sponsor who has always denied it, but deliberately choosing to ignore the fact that for 6 months and for about 4,000 published articles, we have put up with the ridiculous intentions of Prince Abdulaziz bin Abdullah bin Saud bin Abdulaziz Al Saud, his advisor Architect (later revealed to be non-architect) Marco Bernardini, and the elusive Tanal Entertainment Sport and Media.
The triptych became the protagonist of Press releases for events that never happened (Fantastic Trophy), never created situations (construction of motorcycles), non-existent company headquarters (photoshopped buildings), never registered trademarks, and unreal press conference, all without concludeing anything.
We can report here the links of everything that has been declared but things do not change because nothing has ever really happened as it is a hoax carried on for months.

From the doors of the Prince’s residence that had to be opened to the press, to the races in the desert, to electric motorcycles, up to the repeated deadlines that were not met, everything was simply an invention.

The 90 million for the 5 years did not arrive, but not even the 18 million for the next season.
In April-May, the clarifications on the VR46 MotoGP team seemed imminent.
Aramco had even disappeared from journalistic reasoning, replaced by Tanal who still appears on Marini’s Moto2 and MotoGP along with other NON-EXISTING companies such as brands, offices and activities, while now it seems normal that the he news arrives at the end of the season. Yet another deadline.

And none of the insiders dare to ask anything about something that has been talked about for months, that is, and we repeat it, Tanal, the Prince, a councilor who was everywhere, and dozens of projects that turned out to be bogus.
A stage made up of liars, sleepy amateurs, incompetent, hustlers and cowards who do not have the courage to ask a question despite their professional ethics should force it on them.

Then we will do it: Tanal, the Prince and the Councilor, what happened to them?
And who lies between Aramco who says they are not involved and VR46 who instead says that everything is okay with the oil giant?

Fans who watch this show, who pay to watch MotoGP on TV, who click on sites or buy magazines, can draw their own conclusions about the people they give their money to.

And for those who want to see the show again, the episodes are all here, starting with the August episode:

August 6th 2021
Wheeler-dealers, princes, oilmen and suspicious companies: is someone exploiting VR46 and Valentino without their knowledge?
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August 14th 2021
Team VR46: Ducati rumors worried about a possible scam. A rescue press conference on Wednesday?

August 15th 2021
VR46: without Arabs or oilers, what's next? More importantly, when? And who pays for it?

August 22nd 2021
VR46, the Prince's press conference: 90 million arrive by hot air balloon!

August 26th 2021
Tanal and VR46: the farce at its peak. Two payments have already been postponed. Tanals of lies collapses

August 31st 2021
SKY renews and saves VR46 and WithU. Yamaha saves SRT. Here’s how Valentino gets out of the bad business with Tanal!

September 6th 2021
VR46: the first choice, Aprilia, hadn't taken the bait. Numerous Testimonies are coming!

September 8th 2021
That time Tanal Global Holdings tried to scam the Ivory Coast Government

September 12th 2021
Valentino Rossi: “the VR46 Team is not my problem”. The cowardly Press, The Sugar Daddy SKY, the non-existent Sponsor companies!

September 15th 2021
VR46: Aramco back in the game but with credible interlocutors? The new rumors!

October 7th 2021
MotoGP and Moto2: Tanal and the others, “out of the game”

October 22nd 2021
VR46, possible announcement at Misano but there are worrying rumors!



VR46 confirms but Aramco denies. Who's lying? Nieto speaks. Uccio torpedoed?

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Misano non è stato il lieto fine Italiano atteso, per il pacchetto VR46, né direttamente, né indirettamente.
Valentino Rossi è partito ultimo e ha terminato in top ten. Un risultato tutto sommato accettabile vista la stagione, ma di certo non di quelli attesi fino a poco tempo fa quando si parlava di addio casalingo dignitoso alla carriera.
Male anche Bagnaia, alfiere quotato dell’Accademy, in terra per resistere ad un Marquez che si è aggiudicato la gara in casa d’altri su un circuito che per conformazione avrebbe dovuto dirgl di no.
Non è andata bene nemmeno un po’ anche per il resto dei Valentno boys che non hanno brillato né in Moto2, né in Moto3, dove ha vinto un ex VR46, Dennis Foggia.
I risultati di Morbidelli, 14° e Marini 9° e umiliato dal suo compagno di squadra Bastianini, cosa che alimenta polemiche sulle moto che ai due verranno assegnate nel 2022 (a Marini la factory e a Bastianini una moto vecchia), chiudono il week end, ma non finisce qui.

La cosa che dovrebbe preoccupare, anche se non ne parla quasi nessuno, è il mancato annuncio sullo sponsor del team MotoGP di Valentino, su cui per mesi è piombato un silenzio pericoloso.

It is unclear why it was not an organizational or financial figure who broke it, but a technician, a figure who until now had never spoken out on such matters, or perhaps this is a sign.

Nel team alcune certezze ci sono: I piloti saranno Marini e Bezzecchi, mentre i collaboratori storici di VR (Munoz, Flamigni, Gavira) sono confermati ai loro ruoli tecnici.
Chi sembra essere esautorato è Uccio Salucci che, a quanto pare, rimarrà nel ruolo a lui più consono di Bottle&Towel Manager (responsabile borraccia e asciugamano) di Valentino anche nelle corse in auto. Un ruolo di accompagnatore che, plausibilmente, gli impedisca di portare avanti accordi commerciali.
I più maligni avranno pensato che tutto ciò sia dovuto al pasticcio messo su negli ultimi mesi ma la tranquillità di Nieto sembra smentire le voci sul team del quale a Valentino non interessa nulla (lo ha ammesso dichiarando che i problemi di sponsorizzazione non lo riguardano).

According to Pablo Nieto, in fact, the decision not to give news would be linked to the desire to manage the last Italian VR race as best as possible, and otherwise everything would be fine with Aramco, despite the slow progress of the matter.

“Come sapete, abbiamo fatto questo accordo con Aramco in passato. Le cose stanno andando molto, molto lentamente, ma sono sulla strada giusta”

Also:

"This is the most important thing, and right now, the thing I can tell you is that we are working on it. There are some delays, but we are on the right track and we are still working on it."

So after months, the oil sponsor resurfaces, despite official and repeated denials by its press office (Brunswick has repeatedly denied it to this website as well) and its CEO who has spoken out publicly himself.

It is bad to use the term "liar" however, someone is not telling the truth, because if things were to be as the Spaniard says, it would mean that Aramco has been denying for months something for which it was in negotiations. Aramco did not issue "no comment" but instead categorically denied any past and present negotiations with VR46.
If, on the other hand, things were as described by Aramco, it would be someone from VR46 who was making mental movies.

What is astonishing, however, is not so much the bringing up of a sponsor who has always denied it, but deliberately choosing to ignore the fact that for 6 months and some 4,000 published articles, we have been grinning at the ridiculous intentions of Prince Abdulaziz bin Abdullah bin Saud bin Abdulaziz Al Saud, his advisor Architect (later revealed not to be an architect) Marco Bernardini, and the phantom Tanal Entertainment Sport and Media.
The triptych has been responsible for press releases for events that never happenedFantastic Trophy), situations never created (motorcycle construction),nonexistent corporate headquarters (photoshopped buildings), holding company trademarks never registered, and press conferences bordering on the surreal, without concluding anything.
We can report here the links of everything that was stated but things do not change because nothing ever really happened as it is a bluster carried on for months.

From the doors of the Prince's residence that were to be opened to the press, to races in the desert, to electric motorcycles, to repeated missed deadlines, everything was simply an invention.

Non sono arrivati i 90 milioni per i 5 anni, ma nemmeno i 18 per la prossima stagione.
Ad Aprile-maggio, le delucidazioni sul team MotoGP VR46 sembravano imminenti.
Aramco era addirittura scomparsa dai ragionamenti giornalistici, sostituita da Tanal che compare ancora sulle moto2 e sulla MotoGP di Marini insieme ad altre aziende INESISTENTI come brand, sedi e attività, mentre adesso sembra normale che le news arrivino a fine campionato. Un’ennesima scadenza.

And none of the insiders dares to ask anything about something that has been talked about for months, namely, and we repeat, Tanal, the Prince, an adviser who was everywhere, and dozens of projects that later turned out to be bogus.
A stage made up of liars, sleepy amateurs, incompetents, marketeers and wimps who do not have the courage to ask a question despite the fact that their professional ethics should dictate it.

I'll make it: what happened to Tanal, the Prince and the Counselor?
And who is lying between Aramco who says they are not involved and VR46 who instead says everything is fine with the oil giant?

Gli appassionati che guardano questo spettacolo, che pagano per guardare la MotoGP in TV, che cliccano sui siti o comprano le riviste, traggano le loro conclusioni sulla gente a cui danno i soldi.

And for those who want to review the show, the episodes are all here, starting with the May episode:

6 maggio 2021
MotoGP: perché ARAMCO non sa niente della partnership con VR46?

July 19, 2021
Valentino Rossi and Aramco: doubts grow. Press and finance wake up, but not by us!

1 agosto 2021
Faccendieri, principi, petrolieri e aziende “sospette”: qualcuno sfrutta a sua insaputa VR46 e Valentino? I nuovi comunicati non convincono!

14 agosto 2021
Team VR46: rumors Ducati preoccupata di un possibile raggiro. Mercoledì una conferenza stampa di salvataggio?

August 15, 2021
VR46: without Arabs or oilers, what's next? More importantly, when? And who pays for it?

22 agosto 2021
Tanal-VR46, la conferenza stampa del Principe: 90 milioni arrivano in mongolfiera!

27agosto 2021
Tanal e VR46: la farsa al suo apice. Già due i pagamenti rimandati. Crolla il castello di bugie di Tanal

August 31, 2021
SKY renews and saves VR46 and WithU. Yamaha saves SRT. Here's how Valentino gets out of the mess with Tanal!

September 5, 2021
VR46: Aprilia, first choice, had not taken the bait. Numerous testimonies arrive!

8settembre 2021
Quando Tanal Global Holdings cercò di truffare il Governo della Costa d’Avorio

12 settembre 2021
Valentino Rossi: “il team VR46 non è un mio problema”. Stampa spaventata, Sky Sugar Daddy e aziende sponsor inesistenti!

15 settembre 2021
VR46: Aramco di nuovo in gioco ma con interlocutori credibili? I nuovi rumors!

7 ottobre 2021
MotoGP e Moto2: Tanal e gli altri, “fuori dai giochi”

22 ottobre 2021
VR46, possibile annuncio a Misano ma ci sono voci preoccupanti!

 



Fixers, princes, oilmen and "suspicious" companies: is someone exploiting VR46 and Valentino without their knowledge? New releases do not convince!

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DISCLAIMER
Usually those who spoil parties are never nice and seem to do so out of envy, spite, or who knows what. Assuming that this is the case, that is, that we are indeed spoiling a party, it is good to clarify the meaning of this piece. The only purpose is to protect all those who might, as collateral victims, stumble upon a matter that is likely to be unclear. Obviously we believe in the good faith of all parties involved, but at the same time we would like to point out some doubts about the matter. Many things do not add up and we raise a flag. If we got something wrong, we are ready to rectify it. For the last time, we would be happy if this whole affair was a big misunderstanding.
All the documentation, recorded phone calls, emails and communications we have collected, is available to the Judiciary.

PROLOGUE
Since May 6 on this site we have been busy seeking information and clearing some doubts about the communicated partnership between Tanal Entertainment Sport and Media, and VR46 with the sponsorship of Aramco, for the 2022 MotoGP adventure on Ducati.
With the VR46 partnership statements still fresh, some doubts were already coming to light, unfortunately only on our part, related to the fact that, first of all, there were no signatures or quotation marks in the press release, and then the first denials from the oil company had already arrived.

CLICK HERE TO VIEW TANAL VR46 ARAMCO ITALIAN RELEASE

FIRST DENIALS
More than three months, almost four, have passed since late April, and there have been two more denials. The first came in late June and the second, in Assen. The latter is really the heaviest, as it came from the mouth of the CEO of the oil company, Aramco Oversea, Al Murri.
Let us briefly give a summary history.

1) Denial by Aramco's press account, Adam Jibali, contact person for the Brunswick Group agency, which handles Aramco 's relations not in the UK but around the world.
"There is no strategic agreement between Aramco and VR46. There has never been any business relationship between Tanal Entertainment and Aramco." That alone would have been enough to worry about.

2) Some sites would later receive requests from Aramco Uk regarding the removal of the news of the Aramco deal from the news sites complete with a request for correction and with an official statement about Aramco 's absolute unrelatedness to VR46 and MotoGP. Few concerns here either, except from a handful of professionals, only foreigners.

3) To close, the CEO of Aramco Oversea, host of the Pramac team, would again and personally deny being involved in the deal. When the prince's words were allegedly pointed out to him, he would reply, "Do you know how many princes we have in Saudi Arabia?" A statement-an explanation that is hard to ignore.

It must be said, however, that Aramco could and could have made a little more effort to deny and say, on the record and once and for all, the same things it has been saying to various journalists face to face or mail to mail, in short, as it did to us. 

 

These three boulders, with the addition of the latest denial that we also received directly from Brunswick Group on July 27, clarify Aramco 's point of view and downplay the repeated reassurances that allegedly came from the Saudi Prince. Arguably, despite the undoubted good faith, there is some distance between willingness to sponsor directly (through Aramco) or indirectly, by having Aramco go through Tanal Entertainment, and actually being able to do so lightly, ending up in the hull with certain brands. Provided everything is true, including the prince appearing in photographs alongside reassuring statements, but never in a video or in person.And allow us, everyone is free to have doubts and manifest them. Not least because Tanal Global Holding is one thing, and Tanal Entertainment Sport and media, another--and we will see that at least one of the two does not seem to exist.

 

SAUDI PRINCE'S ITALIAN ADVISER AND STRANGE PRESS OFFICE

We were recently contacted by the Prince's Councilor, Architect Marco Bernardini, who wanted us to make some clarifications, which, however, are nothing more than statements similar to those already issued through communiqués.

We point out that at the Order of Architects we could not find but one namesake in Liguria. "Our" Architect Marco Bernardini, we are not aware of.

Returning to the phone call, the architect was keen to illustrate how from the site Tanal and the network of releases, we could have inferred the goodness and absolute reliability of the initiative. Too bad the architect was not referring to Tanal Global Holding but to Tanal Entertainment, and there is no trace of the latter on the web.

We were later written to by Ms. Arianna Pasquale (we found no trace of her anywhere), Head Press Officer of Tanal Entertainment and Media, who, however, raised further doubts and perplexities in us. Let us see them.

EMAIL ADDRESS AND PRESS OFFICE
We found it quite peculiar that a multinational communications company with a dedicated site does not have a personalized email address, although in fact Tanal Entertainment does not have a site at all. The email came to us from tanalentertainment.press@gmail.com
This is unheard of in a similar field.
They make cities of the future and don't have a dedicated corporate email.
The same message, signed by Arianna Pasquale, contained no phone number, either personal or from the office.
The job of a press office is to get tracked down to provide information and clarification. This is not the case here.
The office has no address, email, landline, mobile, fax, etc. A website is not listed either. We went looking for it. And we did not find it.
Tanal Entertainment and Media is running several million-dollar partnerships with several international partners and has no website. We did, however, find that of Tanal Global Holding, which is also troubling.

 

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Mail Press Office

DOUBTS ON THE WEBSITE OF MULTINATIONAL TANAL GLOBAL HOLDING

First, the mismatch between Tanal Entertainment and Tanal Global Holding. The website of Tanal Global Holdings with the S
https://www.tanalglobalholdings.com/ is quite unique.
It is first of all made with a program for pre-packaged sites, specifically Jimdo. One can make a site there for a few euros by copying from various pre-packaged templates.
A multinational company that does billion-dollar projects did not contract a web agency to make its site. Quite unique.
And still it shows. The site is sloppily made.

Multilingualism is also not present. This is also quite strange for a multinational company that operates in 37 countries around the world.

THE NEWS IS NOT THERE
With all the high prestige and visibility initiatives, the news section is strangely under construction. Announcements are sent out, so the news would be there, but strangely it is not on the site. This is the first case of this kind for a high-level holding company. And also of a somewhat lower level.

President and Vice Presidents of Tanal Global Holdings are two Saudi princes whose names, however, are slightly different from those of the royal family found on Wikipedia, to be clear, even though they correspond to the owners of Tanal Entertainment Sport and Media.
It may happen that some transcripts are not quite identical.
We can overlook that as well.

There is a global network with a map and cities where the locations would be. However, there is not even an address to reach them. Not even an address of even one location. Yet we are talking about about 40 locations in 37 countries around the world, no continent excluded.

As advisor there is a name and a phone number.
No response to the call. As email address an email @tanalglobalholdings in the name Omar, and a gmail address.
Again, quite unique. Omar has an email with no last name in a multinational company.

Tanal News Section
Tanal News Section

 

A CLIENT PORTFOLIO WITHOUT CLIENTS
In the portfolio there is a list of activities in which Tanal is involved.
There are so many, but not a single client is listed in the client portfolio. Not a single specific initiative is listed among the many listed in the various releases. Quite unique.

Fra i partners presenti, ne abbiamo chiamati alcuni.
Di quelli che parlano inglese nessuno conosce Tanal ma un paio ci hanno già detto che è stata fatta loro questa domanda. Hanno chiesto a noi come mai. Forse è qualcuno che ha le nostre stesse curiosità.

GLOBAL SECTION OF THE SITES
Many offices in various countries have the same email address despite the fact that the contact persons are people with different names.
In various countries even far apart Omar always responds who has a gmail email address in common with other contact persons.
Strange this too however maybe these things happen.

The site's privacy policy is google's standard one, and it's not even customized for the referring site.
A bit of laziness, but it is still illegal. In Tanal they may not know this.

THE CURIOUS ANNOUNCEMENTS RECEIVED
Tanal, whether Global Holding or Entertainmente, does not appear to have carried out any activities prior to May.
All initiatives seem to start from that month, following the announcements of the agreement with VR46 in late April.
Only the latest activities may have been selected, but even on the web one can find almost nothing from before that period.

The first release we are going to talk about is the last one in chronological order regarding the upcoming (but it has already passed without having happened) participation of TANAL ENTERTAINMENT SPORTS & MEDIA WITH YAYA EVENTS AT THE ANDALUSIA RALLY 2021 TEST LIVE prologue of an unclear FANTASTIC TROPHY COMPETITION, which is supposed to be an intercontinental gaming competition mixed with hyper-realistic reality.

The connection is not clear but that's okay. The Andalusia Rally is a car event, though. On the photos, however, there is a gentleman who is supposed to be doing the Dakar on a motorcycle. The driver in question is also CEO of an Edutainment company that often appears in Tanal's press releases and partners. Jader Giraldi, is photographed next to a motorcycle but is participating in a car rally. Or so it is explained. Quite curious. Or we didn't understand it ourselves.
We tried to reach Mr. Giraldi but it was not posibiile to talk to him.

The list of various partners for the rest is quite clear: in addition to Tanal Entertainment Sport and Media we have Yaya Events, a company of the motorcyclist motorist, Maic Technologies, a specialist in biodetection systems.
All of these partners would be part of the Tiburtec technology hub , overseen by Architect Bernardini, the Prince's advisor, inside the Via Peroni headquarters in the Tiburtino Technopole, between Rome and Tivoli.

The location of the large, modern building also appears in the release, with all the logos of the many partner companies in plain view.
The building, however, is a render, a graphic proof.
In reality the building exists, but on Google the color, the gardens, and the facade, which does not feature the company logos shown in the conunication, are slightly different.

CLICK HERE TO VIEW THE Tanal Entertainment-Andalusia Fantastic Trophy PRESS RELEASE.

 

TIBURTEC TANAL
TIBURTEC IN THE TANAL STATEMENT

 

TIBURTEC GOOGLE
TIBURTEC ON GOOGLE

 

TIBURTEC REAL
TIBURTEC AS IT REALLY IS

We went to the site and indeed there is no logo on the facade. We spoke with some employees and the building's concierge and it was confirmed that none of the companies listed had ever resided within the complex or received mail. Or at least they, perhaps apart from Korean, do not know them. Not all companies need to be surveyed in a complex but then how come an untrue image was provided of a building that does not have those logos? What is the point of showing a counterfeit location?
The concierge and employees of the building assured us that the logos were never on the building, which instead are prominently displayed in the photo of Tiburtec included in Tanal's statement. For the record, Tiburtec is a real existing company but it administers condominiums.

Among the many companies mentioned, quite interesting is KMHG - Korean Moroccan Holding Group, an association of Moroccan expatriates in Korea, at least that's what we found, which is described as an expert in analytics.
It is a Holding Company which, however, barring our mistakes, we understand has only one employee. He must be a very good one who can do a lot of things. But being, that company, chaired by Marco Bernardini, we get the doubt that the architect is modest and does not want to appear too many times so as not to take too much credit.

Thus, somewhat surprisingly, the release also finds a place in the press release for the presentation of a project for a 4-wheel-drive hybrid motorcycle that should start from a video game and go on to a movie based on a book, and then be produced.

 

Tanal hybrid Moto
Tanal hybrid Moto

The video game we could not find. The book exists but we found no trace of the filming that should have been going on for a year in the city of Gubbio in addition to Rome, New York Jeddah, Riyadh and Moscow. For New York Moscow and other foreign cities we have given up but at the municipality of Rome and the municipality of Gubbio we have not found anyone aware that they have been shooting a film in their city for a year.
However, we are happy that the exclusive prototype motorcycle that will also be used on the set of the film called "Edward Loth - Najima The Fantastic City" produced by Tanal Entertainmet Sport & Media together with an Italian co-production and other international partners, based on the book by best-selling author Philip Osbourne, will kick off the mass production of the motorcycle in question designed by C Creative, a company owned by Claudio Castiglioni, in a factory located in Terni and managed by Giampiero Sacchi, the same person who at Mugello accompanied along with the VR46 men, architect Bernardini to Dorna by Carmelo Ezpeleta hoping that this project will have different results from those from the bankruptcy of Sacchi's Terni racing company, Ioda Racing, which unfortunately sees its assets subject to judicial auction and several people left without work and with payments to be received.
The bike however, though only a drawing, is beautiful and we hope it will actually be produced.
Only thing: in another statement, also from Tanal, it is announced that the bike will instead be produced in Saudi Arabia.
There is some uncertainty. Someone tell that to Giampiero Sacchi, who may be preparing the plant in Terni.
For now, however, there is no great danger, since all the plans are future and nothing has been realized yet.

 

THE MAZZANTI SUPERCAR THAT DOESN'T EXIST YET

Somewhat simpler is the statement about the Mazzanti Evantra hyper car, which fortunately exists even if in earlier models and is produced in the number of 5 examples per year. In truth, since 2015 there have been no nameplate models. Only a few prototypes, at least that is how it seems to us.
Mazzanti is reported to have less than 10 employees with an annual personnel cost of about 81,000 euros. And so we assume that at Mazzanti, unless we are looking at exploitation, there should be just a couple of employees.

Returning to the car in the communiqué, of this model that does not yet exist, 57 are to be produced, by a factory that does not currently have a single license plate, in an upgraded 1111hp armored and fire-resistant version with inviolable anti-theft device. The cars will, of course, be produced in the future in a 275-thousand-square-meter plant also directed by Architect Bernardini, which will see the light of day in Saudi Arabia in the future and will employ hundreds of Arab engineers starting in the 2030s. A made in Italy made in Saudi Arabia. And it would be the first automobile factory in history located in one of those countries.

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Evantra-MBS-ONE-1111-HP (render)

It is obviously all very interesting but also quite thrown forward in years, especially if we are talking about a hypercar.
In the meantime, however, the car will appear, not to mention, in the aforementioned film "Edward Loth - Najima The Fantastic City" and in various video games in the form of a flying tank in special effect mode since, as stated above, it does not exist. It all happens in that movie.

The good fortune, this time, is that on the Mazzanti Automobili website there is a reference to the communiqué even though the words are the same as in Luxurious Magazine which itself reports the Tanal communiqué, as if Mazzanti is reporting the communiqué of others on its own initiative. "It looks like a Lotus," they say, but it is only a drawing. The car will be different. Mazzanti has not released information on this issue. We will have to wait a few years for the plant and then the cars to be produced. Patience is needed.
In the meantime, however, Tanal sends out his proclamations and the press takes them up confidently, and with partnerships declared and taken up by the press, it is a little easier to find other partnerships.

CLICK HERE TO VIEW THE Tanal Evantra MBS 1111 hp PRESS RELEASE.

 

FANTASTIC TROPHY COMPETITION
In one of the releases regarding the association with VR46, in fact, perhaps one of the least read since it does not speak directly about Motogp, there is another rather curious initiative that deserves attention: the FANTASTIC TROPHY COMPETITION, defined as a new two-wheel sports competition designed by
Tanal Entertainment Sports & Media to create a new competition format with unique features. Unlike the best-known competitions, the release reads, Fantastic Trophy Competition uses two different types of courses: in the desert in Saudi Arabia and on dirt roads in Italy. As in all Tanal initiatives it starts in Umbria and ends in Saudi Arabia doing the Paris Dakar in a sort of Riad.

The format of the competition, the release continues, is similar to a video game: immersed in reality, using the interaction between two wheels, satellites, drones, hot air balloons; real-time interaction with the stable in the field and the audience at home. The use of advanced virtual reality, communication and navigation technologies, interactive platforms for digital and telemetry stream management will be provided by Korean Moroccan Holding Group, in collaboration with leading Korean players in the industry.
Let us not forget, however, that the Korean Moroccan Holding Group, turns out to be an association of Moroccan emigrants in Korea and has, if we are not mistaken, only one employee, its president, architect Bernardini, who of course if he believes can correct and disprove our claims. Not to mention that the telematic flows in other releases were entrusted to Maic.
Keep these two companies in mind.

However, in this case from a time perspective we are lucky because the final format will be presented by September 2021 and then, the release says, could announce a test race from November to December on two routes, one Italian and one Saudi.
One in KSA - in the desert from Fantastic City, which still as a city we remember, does not exist to KAEC on the Red Sea - and one on off-road tracks in Italy, starting in Tavullia, Gubbio and Terni, where MAIC Technologies is designing and building the first prototype four-wheel-drive off-road motorcycle with hybrid, thermal and electric propulsion, while plant production is planned in Saudi Arabia.
Here there is a problem with an earlier release since the motorcycle seemed to be destined, as production in Terni.
And Maic Technologies, according to another communiqué, we understood to be engaged in biometric sensing activities and not motorcycle production.
From one release to another, MAIC and KMHG switched roles.

Fantastic Trophy Competition, the statement continues, will be a real hub for the selection of young Saudi riders, whose talent can emerge with the valuable support of VR46.
I wonder if in Saudi Arabia they know about this all-Italian opportunity to become like Valentino, Morbidelli and Bezzecchi as they race followed by drones, satellites and hot air balloons and audiences from home, on a four-wheel-drive hybrid motorcycle that will be built in the next few years in Saudi Arabia itself, or in Terni.

Following in the communiqué is praise for the Saudi Prince and Moroccan-Korean companies, chaired by Architect Bernardini, a recognized representative of Korean technology and Italian creativity. Of the latter, the communiqués are not lacking because of the efforts in urban planning, construction, technology and academia, there is no project actually implemented yet. And we hope that the Saudi prince will not be upset about this.

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CLICK HERE TO VIEW THE FANTASTIC TROPHY / VR46 RELEASE

On the remaining communiqués regarding the specific agreements between Tanal Global and VR46, those with KSA New Cities AND ARAMCO as the target, little to add except that they all present the same stereotypes: projects yet to be realized, statements yet to be verified, one-sided communiqués, and partner companies appearing, always the same, in all the projects communicated by Tanal. And the one sponsor, ARAMCO, who no longer knows how to deny it.

CLICK HERE TO VIEW THE RELEASE TANAL VR46 MOTOR SECTOR

CLICK HERE TO VIEW THE COMMUNICATION TANAL VR46 ARAMCO English

CLICK HERE TO VIEW COUNICATO TANAL VR46 ARAMCO ITALIAN

For the rest, he was right, Architect Bernardini when he told me on his phone call that by well analyzing the network of news, releases and initiatives, the numbers would indeed add up.

The common thread is him: Marco Bernardini, administrator of Terni-based Systech, a company that makes electrical panels (so the web reports, since the company has no website), with a passion for Saudi Arabia, formerly resigned construction manager of Terni's Cardeto Park, and a proponent as a bystander of electric motorcycle projects that wanted to participate in the MotoE championship in 2017 (they didn't make it) and in later years of electric racing cars that never came to life, multifunctional energy towers that never went up, and Saudi smart cities that have yet to be built, with projects that have been thrown into the future for a few years but then, when the future arrives, are never seen.
Another thing that leaves us doubtful is the fact that there is no record at the Architectural Association of Architect Marco Bernardini. There is a namesake of his but he has a practice in Liguria. We hope he is at least a surveyor. We can of course be wrong and are ready for any correction.

 

WHO IS LIKELY TO BE HARMED?

In all this web of events, communiqués and companies, the one who risks losing out is VR46 , which seems to be more used than sponsored.
We called VR46 in the person of Uccio Salucci who, very courteously, confirmed the partnership with Tanal and to have already active sponsorships in CIV and CEV, with related financial support and fairing sponsors but, following our further requests, he directed us to Alberto Tebaldi who, however, busy, promised to call us back. We have been waiting for several days.

In addition to VR46, in an obviously marginal position, there is also. Ducati, which will have to provide two official bikes as well as technicians and engineers. Obviously the company is not in danger but there could still be some image damage or some element to reconsider.
As for Dorna , which is in danger of not being able to count on the flow of money that such a lavish sponsorship should bring, it will obviously make its contribution to the team, but it is clear that it would be faced with an uphill project that would have to seek another sponsorship, at this point, last minute.

In short, we are sure that the VR46 MotoGP team will happen and it will also be a success. Princes, fixers, oilmen-we believe it's all true. The only thing that does not add up for us is referring to the credentials so far exhibited by its sponsor. Which we will be glad to disprove.

 

IMPORTANT UPDATE 

This article has been ready for a few days, about a week. We asked for clarification and gave it time to respond but received very aggressive approaches as well as unhinged reactions.
On Saturday, July 31, it came out on the important website GPONE an article regarding the launch of a press conference to be held in Riad although, uncharacteristically for such a release, the date is missing. We are sure GPONE will have done its due diligence. To us, however, it still doesn't add up.
There is a video in the release that is again a render and depicts the building made in the shape of an F1 car. What does this have to do with Tanal?
Also missing is ARAMCO in addition to SIg. Bernardini and the sponsors have become POTENTIAL.
What is that supposed to mean? Someone help us out here.

 

Press Conference Release Tanal1
Press Conference Release Tanal1

 

Press Conference Release Tanal2
Press Conference Release Tanal2


Pedro Acosta in VR46? Il fantamercato inventato è il paradiso del click!

Pedro Acosta

By now what pulls, more than the sport where little can be invented because the results in the end are what they are, is the market.
And the new rais of the situation, due to the fact that the results on the track are no longer there and a change in his role is near, is Valentino Rossi, for the past few months depicted as a dictator of a former Soviet state, that is, as a man who fights bears and is engaged in all kinds of titanic feats against imaginary giants of all kinds.

Dopo una partnership con Aramco, che possiamo ormai tranquillamente dichiarata come inventata dato che il nome del colosso petrolchimico è scomparso dopo un solo giorno dalla sua menzione. arriverebbe questa ipotetica “prenotazione” del talento più cristallino degli ultimi anni: Pedro Acosta, il quale verrebbe avvicinato  al team VR46a dispetto di una penale stratosferica, appositamente menzionata per ingigantire l’imminente impresa.

All fascinating but perhaps it is time to get back to reality.
Really anyone who is not in bad faith or in absolute need of editorial attention can think that Rossi, who has never paid for a rider in his life, including his brother, because of which he closed the Moto3 team, can spend money, so much money, on a rider anyway already destined for the most shining scenarios?
Is it really conceivable that an organization made to capitalize from its investmentsBagnaia, Morbidelli, etc.) could invest an amount of money that together has never seen for something that is not a direct product of its nursery?
Can anyone really believe that VR46 which money from its own TAKES THEM, can spend half a million that it does NOT HAVE (VR's pockets are one thing and the coffers of its companies are another and at the moment there is not even money for the team in GP) to take Acosta?
Then what? Would Acosta, who grew up in Spain go and train at the Academy, taking the reverse route of what most Italians do? Or maybe he doesn't go there and so what would be the point of his enlistment?
Would really Acosta, who has a contract with the AJO team that is one of the best forces in Moto2, a direct emanation of KTM, go to an outside team?

Ma la cosa che fa più ridere è quella che riguarda il pagamento della penale.
Secondo i clickinformati a dare una mano dovrebbe essere Ducati.
L’azienda Italiana dovrebbe pagare 500mila euro (la somma che paga come ingaggio a Bagnaia e che pagava a Petrucci l’anno scorso) per svincolare un pilota e farlo andare in una classe in cui non corre, nell’attesa che vada in MotoGP?

La verità è che più che una Academy di piloti, serve una Academy per chi, per sbarcare il lunario, scrive delle cose.
A questo punto raccontateci che Valentino, messo in mezzo come al solito, smessi i suoi panni da pilota, combatte con le tigri come Putin, ed è più credibile.

VR46 MotoGP: that nuisance named Bastianini!

Bastianini

WARNING: EXPLICIT LYRICS. EXPLICIT CONTENT, DIRECT LANGUAGE AND HAIRY OPINIONS

Bastianini è bello che spacciato. Adesso lo sa. Cioè lo sa dal primo momento in cui hanno presentato il team Avintia SKY VR46 dove lui è il cenerentolo che si è dovuto accontentare delle frattaglie di luce, comunicazione e considerazione che rimanevano, di rimbalzo, dalle presentazioni alle interviste, fino alle menzioni in telecronaca e tutto il repertorio da Istituto Luce che da anni caratterizza il motorsport tricolore.
Il campione del mondo della Moto2 diventava gregario del fratello di. Non ci si crede. Ebbene era evidente. E lo è tutt’ora nonostante il confronto sia impietoso.

Il team Avintia doveva solo cambiare nome in VR46… e forse marchio di moto. Adesso nemmeno più quello, dato che sono sempre più prepotenti le voci di accordo con Ducati. Insomma è fatta. E se non è fatta è un’ennesima figuraccia da parte della squadra di Tavullia dopo l’autogoal con ARAMCO, che prima era sulla bocca di tutti e adesso da una decina di giorni non si nomina più.

In realtà ci ha provato, VR46. L’operazione ARAMCO leggi anche fumo in faccia a Petronas, non è andata a buon fine.
La verità è che non è VR46 che ha scelto le Ducati (che costano anche di più), ma è Yamaha che ha scelto Petronas.

In doubt already for a while VR46, the company and all the publishing that for years has been crawling in the presence of the most profitable package and with the most glaring team/media conflict of interest in the history of motorsport, is trying to take Morbidelli home after turning him around so that, like a magnet, he has opposed the pole of attraction with Petronas, with Yamaha and with Forcada. It serves to repel them. It serves to make the dream team, that is, a team that has the owner's brother in it and one that is really going strong. It needs Morbidelli, and it needs to get rid of Bastianini.

Those who write that the VR46 riders will be Marini and Bastianini are lying hoping to lie. That would not be such a good story to tell.

A self-respecting VR46 team cannot have in its lineup the living, winning demonstration that you don't have to be part of the Academy to play in the Motorcycle A Series. Bastianini is proof that you can make a career for yourself, early and well. What kind of VR46 team would it be if "typical products" were not fielded?

Forse Enea è destinato a fare un solo anno terribile (oltre al resto di questo 2020 che già è bello pesante) nel caso non si trovi nessun altro, ma la realtà è che i pesaresi piuttosto su quella moto sarebbero capaci di metterci persino Bezzecchi. Perché altrimenti non sarebbe un team VR46 fatto a modo. Insomma se vedremo Bastianini su una moto VR46 sarà solo perché non saranno riusciti a segarlo.

E chi dice che tanto Bastianini è salvo perché è già in direzione Pramac, sappia che, ammesso che sia vero, magari i primi anni no, ma entro brevissimo, ci sarà guerra anche per avere le migliori Ducati possibili, soprattutto presentando Morbidelli in squadra.

That is, assuming there aren't already problems for next year, because it's unclear what level of officialdom the VR46 team will be able to aspire to, especially when they manage to bring home the Morbido. And believe us, that is the intent and it is being worked on hard.
To figure out who pays and how much. And to be figured out when the money comes in.
For Ducati, you've seen it, there's a purely racing part and a commercial racing part, and in this case, it really doesn't matter where the money comes from, but the first one that comes in has always been the one that lodges the best.

Sarà tutto vero come quando a ottobre 2020 abbiamo anticipato e messo in connessione la chiusura del team VR46 Moto3, l’interesse di una moto per Marini e la relativa cessione degli slot proprio ad Avintia a cui si lavorava per subentrare? Ottobre eh.
Basta stare un po’ attenti.

Misterhelmet Gianluigi Ragno

VR46: pilot and team, announcements coming soon!

VR46

Non è un segreto che Rossi dovrebbe annunciare cose importanti entro brevissimo.
Riguardano il suo futuro e quello del team VR46 di cui è previsto il debutto in MotoGP nel 2022.
Per quanto riguarda il pilota, le dichiarazioni di inizio campionato parlavano di quattro-cinque gare di tempo per capire se VR sarebbe stato ancora competitivo e, da lì, le decisioni.
Possiamo dire senza paura di essere smentiti che le prime quattro uscite sono state un vero disastro e che quindi,  dovendo mantenere le promesse per Valentino Rossi  non ci dovrebbe essere nessuna stagione 2022 da pilota.
Resta da capire se il dottore finirà la stagione o la concluderà addirittura anzitempo, magari compiendo il “beau geste” di girarla al “suo” Morbidelli.
Difficile che accada. Troppi sponsor, accordi, situazioni sospese. Però potrebbe essere.
Altra opzione è che, considerato un Mugello senza pubblico,  il dottore decida di annunciare qualcosa  a Misano, che è casa sua, e che potrebbe consentirgli i giusti omaggi da parte della tifoseria. A Misano potrebbe arrivare una notizia fondamentale.

In realtà a Misano potrebbe arrivare anche qualcos’altro, ovvero qualcosa che riguarda le moto con cui il team VR46 correrà la prossima stagione.
In pole position, a distanziare le altre concorrenti, c’è Ducati. Sarebbe comodo per tutto il sistema, i piloti rimarrebbero quelli attuali del team Avintia (che scomparirà), al netto eventuale di Bastianini (nel caso non andasse in Pramac).
Insomma una situazione comoda e discretamente competitiva. Sicuramente meno destabilizzante di una lotta con Petronas per ottenere le Yamaha, e sicuramente più prestigiosa di una partnership con Aprilia, dato che a Noale si sono dimostrati disponibili ma si sono dichiarati ancora non pronti per un accordo così.
I veneti dovrebbero prediligere una liason con il team Gresini, fatta di storicità e di cuore, e quindi niente VR.
Alla fine, quindi, Misano, con i dati di Le Mans e del Mugello, sarà una data chiave per Valentino Rossi e per la sua struttura.
Dovrebbero arrivare finalmente gli annunci che tutti attendono… inclusa un po’ di chiarezza in merito alla partnership con Tanal e Aramco, annunciata e poi sapientemente silenziata da protagonisti e media.

Misterhelmet Gianluigi Ragno

Rossi and Petronas: you don't say but ... we are beyond the end. And it's already war!

In an earlier piece entitled. The king is naked. And he is minidressed! I had written like this:

“E quindi cosa succede, alla fine? Non lo sappiamo perché non siamo alla fine. Quello che però sembra è che siamo all’anticamera dei vaffanculi e che Petronas, invece di allontanarsi, dalla Yamaha, si sta avvicinando ancora di più, con tanto di dichiarazioni di intenti di partnership pluriennali e baci bacini che hanno tanto il sapore speziato di presa di distanze dalle scelte fatte, indovinate quali.
Il che vuol dire una sola cosa: che la partnership messa insieme per fare belle gare, bei soldi, belle cose, è un tavolino a tre gambe che non si regge nemmeno su una… e che quindi, ciaone a fine anno, se non prima.”

Ecco. Se non prima. Perché ci sono numerosi elementi che fanno pensare che le due entità Petronas e VR46, siano ormai ai ferri cortissimi e che siamo tutti prossimi telespettatori di una telenovela che mette di fronte delle vittime (Rossi&Co) e dei carnefici ingrati, quali Petronas, Razali etc… il tutto adeguatamente insalivato dalla stampa che ormai si è già lanciata in indecenti genuflessi servizietti giustificazionisti.

"We in VR46 have already asked for an official bike for Morbidelli but we were told no" That's the first hint.
And it makes you laugh. If there is a contract, what do you ask for? It's not like going to the butcher and asking for free bones for the dogs.
At the beginning of the season Valentino Rossi and VR46 thought it was a priority to ask for an official bike for VR and not for the much-assisted Morbidelli. That is, assuming that it was not explicitly requested in the contract that the official bike was even only for one of the two. It is therefore no surprise that Franco has a 2019. Franco was already a world vice-champion, but evidently no one went out of their way to get him anything more than a 2-year-old bike. Maybe you couldn't anyway, anyway, then, the controversy is borderline childish, specious and hypocritical. It is a front thing to pass as a victim. And strangely, it's something that wasn't talked about until the whole audience, clamoring for a motorcycle for Morbido. Until yesterday, silence.

Fa anche abbastanza paura che VR46 abbia deciso di rendere ufficiale e pubblica una partnership con ARAMCO in un determinato momento.
La mossa è giustissima e sacrosanta… però non è di quelle che indicano una volontà di pace.
Petronas, su questa cosa è due volte concorrente diretta.
E’ concorrente diretta di ARAMCO in quanto azienda impegnata nell’energia in un territorio che si sovrappone a quello del neo partner VR46 (anche se da ARAMCO, va detto, non è uscito alcun comunicato ufficiale).
E diventa, Petronas, concorrente di VR46 anche dal punto di vista sportivo, dato che entrambe le entità sono plausibilmente in lizza per ottenere due Yamaha.

Rossi , who has a long-standing relationship with Yamaha and also owns Morbidelli's ( Petronas' best rider) tag, is paddling right back at Petronas. By now it's official.
It's legitimate eh, because it's business, but it kind of clashes with the existing relationship between Rossi and Petronas.

VR46 has secured a competing sponsor, is virtually in the running for the bikes currently entrusted to Petronas, and also owns the rider. What's more, through the most representative figure, Valentino Rossi, VR46 itself is dependent on Petronas from a sporting and marketing perspective with initiatives planned through at least 2021.

Cosa starà raccontando, Mr Razali ai vertici della sua azienda che nel frattempo gli avranno chiesto conto di un paio di cosette?
Come si sentirà?
Come uno entrato in affari con una entità, la VR46, che oltre a non performare, lo sta combattendo dall’interno, sia con il suo esponente di marketing e comunicazione (VR46), sia con il suo miglior pilota, che è sì legato a Petroas, ma che obbedisce, de facto, al suo manager e alla VR46 stessa.E infatti manifesta già sintomi di inquietudine sportiva.

Da una parte la partnership è nata malissimo sotto tutti gli auspici, dall’altra Petronas si vede sotto scacco anche dal punto di vista sportivo e quindi doppiamente anche nella gestione delle moto. Sempre che le avrà, Petronas, due moto, nel 2022.

Intervistato su Rossi, ormai Razali parla con lo stesso piacere che hanno quelli che su Airport Security, vengono ripresi quando li hanno beccati che stanno trasportando la droga. Tratterebbe ogni tema tranne quello.
“Eh, non è Rossi che è lento, sono gli altri che sono veloci”.
Se consideriamo che Razali è manager, asiatico e musulmano, quindi non un europeo spaccamontagne, capiamo che è una risposta che sa di coglionella.
Cioè, sa di uno che preferirebbe far vedere il saldo del suo conto online, piuttosto che discutere di una scelta sciagurata da cui non può venire fuori come e quando vorrebbe.
Può dire che si è rotto le scatole e che se potesse caccerebbe VR ieri? Non può dirlo. Può farlo? Non può farlo. Gli costerebbe caro.
Cosa può Razlan Razali? Farlo capire all’interessato (che ovviamente lo sa già) e ai mantenuti editoriali della stampa e del business, avendo però con questi ultimi, molta cura per non passare da cattivo.
Ci manca solo il ricco petroliere ingrato privo di riconoscenza verso il salvatore del motociclismo moderno, portatore di passione, mecenate di giovani piloti, rivitalizzatore degli ultimi 25 anni di due ruote.

Razali knows one thing, however. He has the money and has shown that he can work. And so he can let Valentino Rossi bring home an impressive series of embarrassments like the ones he has already wrapped up so far, along with a sampling of sporting and behavioral own goals. Of course, without boycotting him. He doesn't seem to need it much longer.

If you must know, it is not a risk-free path for Petronas. Because the tug-of-war might have worked when there were no other powerful oil sponsors at stake. Now the position of strength is mitigated.
Dorna cannot lose Petronas but neither can it displease VR46.
We have seen that from the cookie on, VR has always wanted to play all the media cards without ever holding back. But it is not necessarily, see always biscotto, that the matter always turns in his favor.
The media is a dangerous card.

Capirai. Quello del suo licenziamento è un film che VR stesso non consentirebbe mai di mandare in onda. Piuttosto un megavaffa e una porta sbattuta in cui Petronas passa per il male, poi un’altra stagione corsa sui gomiti l’anno prossimo, per non farsi dire quando e come andar via.
Siamo pronti a tutto questo? Qualcuno sembra di sì.
Oppure prevarrà la ragione. Il che sembra ancora tutto più fantascientifico.
La verità è che Rossi un’uscita l’aveva già pianificata, ma averla rimandata troppe volte forse lo ha fatto arrivare un po’ corto, questa volta. L’intermezzo Petronas non lo aveva previsto. Così come non aveva previsto di lanciare suo fratello in MotoGP prematuramente, sia dal punto di vista sportivo (non sembra prontissimo, se mai lo sarà), sia dal punto di vista politico (avere un team già fatto sarebbe stato meglio ma lo sponsor è arrivato con qualche mese di ritardo).

Would you like to see that this article, already the second part of a previous one, will have a continuation?

Next time we will talk about goodbyes or not even that cold war.

Misterhelmet Gianluigi Ragno